Electrophysiological records of unit activity were used to compare the effects of excitotoxic pallidal lesions and 6-hydroxydopamine-induced damage to the midbrain dopaminergic neurons on the discharge rates and patterns of the subthalamic neurons. Removal of the pallidal input induced a slight, but statistically significant, increase (19.5%) in the discharge rate and no change in the firing pattern when compared to control animals. The rats with a dopaminergic lesion showed greater increase (105.7%) while the firing pattern activity of the subthalamic neurons became more irregular, with bursts. These results indicate that the increased activity of the subthalamic neurons following a midbrain dopaminergic lesion cannot be due solely to inhibition-disinhibition involving the striato-pallido-subthalamic pathway and induced by the striatal dopaminergic depletion.